Dunham tells Time Out New York
, "Her image is as a woman in control and as a woman in power, but it's also somewhat clean-cut, like the opposite of getting naked on television," she says. "She's one of the pop artists who noticeably isn't trafficking in her own sexuality. She has an America's Sweetheart quality, and I have sometimes like a quarter of Americans' demon quality. But she's really comfortable supporting what I do and saying why she thinks it can also have the power to speak to women."