Of course, Forever and the sequel got a lot of
attention at the time for the costumes.
Especially the second one! My god, I look at some of the
photos now. Joel was really having his way, knowing how he wanted these
What was it like to
wear the suit?
For me, I had to wear that little mask that was glued. First
thing in the morning they painted my eyes black and then would glue the mask on
[to my face]. It was so hot, you would touch the mask and water would just run
down your face.
During the first one, we didn’t get in and out of costumes a
lot because it was too complicated. But the second, we had a whole system set
up. I had two people full time that just got me in and out of my suit. And if
it was going to be more than a little while between takes I got out of my suit
and got a fresh under suit. That was the biggest challenge to be honest with
You mentioned to
Conan O’Brien that you still have it in a crate somewhere.
I do! It’s down in the basement.
Is that like a museum
No. It’s in a wood crate. Honestly, my kids have never seen
it. They’re like, “When are you going to open that thing?” And I go, “When I find
a screwdriver.” It may have decomposed in there for all I know.
Forever and the sequel get a bad rap. Joel even apologized at one
point. Even though it’s campy, Forever
is a fun film.
I thought Forever
was terrific. I really thought it was well made. With Batman & Robin, I think Warner Bros. got piggy. It was too soon.
If I remember correctly, it wasn’t too far after The Fugitive came out. And if I remember correctly, The Fugitive was kind of a mess when
they were making it but they figured it out and it was a huge hit. And I
think for a while, Warner Bros. was like, “It doesn’t matter. We can throw
enough money at it and it’ll be a huge hit.” There needs to be a certain amount
of time before people had the appetite, “I need another Batman.” We had just
finished and all of a sudden it was, like, boom here’s another one. There was a
lot of waste. I felt it wasn’t tight and it wasn’t thought out. People just got
greedy. That being said, I had a great time doing it.