As an example, when asked to name her favorite Instagram filter, Kardashian quickly (and icily) replied: “I don’t use filters!”
A guest with the celebrity stature of hers is not a common occurrence for the club, which, in its 100-year history, has hosted discussions with political and civic leaders and is the oldest public affairs forum in the country. But there Kardashian was, sitting down with retired Judge LaDoris Cordell -- the first African-American woman judge in all of Northern California who is now an Independent Police Auditor in San Jose -- for an hour-long interview to promote her new book, Selfish, and her wildly popular gaming app.
“[We have a] generation of girls that are beautiful but don’t have a strong work ethic,” Kardashian said, cautioning people against believing that her life is as vapid as it is sometimes portrayed on the long-running reality series, Keeping Up With the Kardashians. She goes to meetings -- lots of meetings. And she credits her famous husband, Kanye West, with keeping her relevant.
In reference to her app, Kim Kardashian: Hollywood, the 34-year-old reality star revealed that “Kanye made me do this game.” Kanye is also credited with suggesting the concept for Selfish as well as giving the book its title. When she wasn’t praising her husband, Kardashian also spoke of her famous family.
Naturally, Caitlyn Jenner came up in conversation. Kardashian said her family was overwhelmed with the reaction to her transition. “[The] response was…more positive than we ever could imagine,” she said, adding what Jenner has taught her: “Caitlyn has helped me learn to be less judgmental.”
Though, not every experience with public scrutiny has been positive. A year ago, Kardashian and her daughter, North, were subjected to harsh and offensive racial epithets shouted at them from a fellow passenger on an airplane.
After discussing gender identity and race, Judge Cordell asked about Kardashian’s role as a woman.
Does she consider herself a feminist? Despite what people might think of her, she doesn’t believe in using labels. Do selfies objectify women? Yes! And she is proud of objectifying herself!
Judge Cordell also challenged Kardashian on several political topics, including same-sex marriage and presidential race. What does she think of the Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage? “It was about time,” she said. “I’m proud of Obama for getting that done.”
As for whether she thinks Hillary Clinton should be the country’s first female president, Kardashian said, “I hope so!”
Finally, a longstanding tradition at The Commonwealth Club was upheld when Kardashian was asked to offer an idea to change the world. “I’m not a gun person,” she said. “I think we need gun control. We don’t have strict enough gun control laws.”
Was Kardashian always eloquent and insightful in her responses? Not always. But she did convey a genuine persona that uses charm to compensate for any heft it may be lacking.