Diane Sawyer: You
talked about this, [but] what I think was so moving was how many people came to
learn and stayed to learn and were on social media talking about it together. It
was almost as if we were all learning together.
Almost [like] a classroom.
DS: A classroom,
but also an experience of the heart.
You know what I remember? After it was over with and we were six months after
it, I thought, “What did we accomplish with that and then Vanity Fair and then the show and all that sort of stuff?” What we
did is we opened up the conversation. We started a conversation about a small
segment of our population. [There are people] out there that have been
persecuted. Suicide rate is so high. People don’t understand the difference
between transgender, sexuality, and homosexuality. They just don’t get it and we
started this conversation. And for the last year, it's been the most amazing
year of people coming up and talking about this issue. It’s been great. It
really has been.
DS: I'm reminding
you, you promised me another interview.
CJ: Oh, I know,
baby. And you're going to get it. You are going to get that. Don't you worry!
DS: I just booked
CJ: It is, because
the last year has been so interesting and so much has happened in my life.
DS: And not
foreseeable when we sat down.
CJ: Not even
close. Honestly, when we sat down, I had no idea whatsoever what the future
held. None. I didn't know if you'd be accepted, not be accepted, if you'd be
ostracized, pushed out of society. I just didn't know and it's been great.
DS: And again,
you were saying things for the first time. We had never met, you know?
CJ: We had never
DS: Before the
CJ: Until she
walked in that day.
DS: Right, so you
were saying [things] for the first time. I was hearing them for the first time
and you were, in so many ways, leaping into an unknown future.
CJ: I had no idea
how that was going [to go], but fortunately it's been going very positive. And
to be able to live your life for the last year, authentically, [and with] no
more secrets -- I mean, I've had so many great experiences. It's been
DS: And you're
right, I'm not the tallest girl in the room. [Sawyer is 5’ 9” and Jenner is 6’
exactly what I told her during the interview. I said, “Diane, you'll like
hanging out with me, you [won’t] be the tallest girl in the room.” Yeah, I
remember that. And about the nail polish.
DS: That's right.
CJ: Yeah, that and
about the nail polish. [Diane asked me:] “What are you looking forward to?” [I
said:] “Having my nail polish on long enough that it actually chips off.”
DS: That's right.
And online, people went online.
CJ: It went viral
[with] all these people wearing stuff. But yeah, I chipped this nail off and I
was going to send it to you and say, “Hey, guess what? My nail chipped off.”