Katy Perry is on the cover of Roling Stone again, but this time, she's not holding back. She's talking about everything from her career, her exes, Madonna, motherhood, you name it.
In the issue that hits stands this Friday, Katy Perry describes herself as a "singer-songwriter masquerading as a pop star."
And while she may be the best selling singles artist in the United States, selling 72 million digital singles, she's looking for more to define her place in music.
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"I want to have a career. And I’m always planning for the future,” she tells Rolling Stone. "I started a record label, which kind of transitions me into being a boss and a CEO and having a company. You know, real adult s*it. No more dipping the foot into the pond of pop. Cannonballing."
It definitely helps to have a friend in Madonna for this goal who has taught Katy something important. "You have to really prove that you’re an authentic person, and can be trusted, to be in a circle of friends with her. Which I totally understand. You have to really guard your heart when you’re on this kind of level. You can't just have weirdos around you, strange people that want to suck your blood."
And then there's her personal life. She married Russell Brand in October 2010 and divorced him 14 months later, which she's willing to discuss, "It was emotionally traumatic for me. It was the death of a dream. I was in fairy-tale land, and the reality of it wasn't so. But I don’t really like talking about it anymore, because it feels like a thousand lifetimes ago, and also it makes me look desperate, like I need it for attention."
She also does not want to talk about her more recent ex-John Mayer, but she does say that she does need a man to have children.
She uses her animated film Smurfs co-star Neil Patrick Harris as an example, "I don’t need a dude. I mean, Neil [Patrick Harris] and David [Burtka], their twins are beautiful. It's 2014! We are living in the future; we don’t need anything. Um, I don't think I’ll have to, but we’ll see. I’m not anti-men. I love men. But there is an option if someone doesn't present himself."
As for when a child may happen, she says, "maybe it’s in a five-year plan."
For now, Katy "just wants to bring joy to people's lives", and from seeing her perform, she is definitely doing that well. Check out Rolling Stone's August 2014 issue for the full interview.