In talking about that collaboration, West waxed philosophic about trends, history and the staying power of art.
"But it's interesting, as me and you are working on a new community [development in L.A.] -- what do our homes look like now?" West told Vervoordt. "Even with my wife, I see her as a representation, as a Marie Antoinette of our time. So with your mentality with spaces, I believe that what we've been working on will represent humanity for the next 500 to 1,000 years."
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That was representative of their conversation, which got pretty deep at times.
"A designer told me that my wife was a master of light and I was a master of time," West said later. "How to use time is equal to being someone who can cut a diamond. The ability to preserve time is more valuable than the ability to preserve a diamond because time is our most valuable resource. So using something timeless to remind us of what time is, is a good bar."
West also dropped that he's in the process of writing a philosophy book he's calling Break the Simulation.
"I've got this philosophy -- or let's say it's just a concept because sometimes philosophy sounds too heavy-handed. I've got a concept about photographs, and I'm on the fence about photographs -- about human beings being obsessed with photographs -- because it takes you out of the now and transports you into the past or transports you into the future," he said. "It can be used to document, but a lot of times it overtakes [people]. People dwell too much in the memories. People always wanna hear the history of something, which is important, but I think it there's too much of an importance put on history."
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